This disorganized LS organization from Fenrir is not only attempting Pandemonium Warden, but streaming the entire attempt over the Web. It's taken them nearly 4 hours to properly set up and get everyone there. They can't get everybody to shut up and stay organized for more than five minutes at a time...
... and, if all reports are to be believed, a GM is already witnessing the fight.
(There's really only two ways to interpret this: Either to ensure a fair fight, or expecting it won't be...)
Judging by all these things, I expect from pop to wipe will be about 20 minutes. Tops.
The pop should be imminent (about an hour behind schedule, at least!!), it's 9:50 PM EST now. (6:50 out here)
They're streaming this over UStream, and I saw about 15 minutes of a bunch of pigs oinking in the chat on UStream before I basically decided to pull up the stream (and, yes, I expect either a cheat or a very quick wipe) in a popup and watch for my own entertainment.
If what I've seen before the fight (on the UStream chat, in-game on Fenrir, and on BG) is any indication, my questions about anyone playing this game legitimately at all (or knowing how!!) just redoubled again. Egh...
Now it's 10:00 PM Eastern, and still no PW pop. Four hours now, Mojo??? I mean, if it's this elite of a fight, why didn't you spend about the last week to coordinate everything and get people to -- oh, I don't know -- research what PW does and try to formulate something beforehand???
I should have to pay a cover charge and minimum drinks. This appears to be a massive embarrassment, one way or the other.
10:02 PM EDT: Sounds like the pop should be imminent -- just setting up their meds for the 2-hour showdown with PW, in all its forms...
10:04 PM EDT: Snoken has officially Rickrolled the attempt. Saddest part: He's got it macro'ed.
10:08 PM EDT: Why people are dying to resident mobs while setting up for this is beyond my comprehension. Why they are fighting the resident mobs at all, even more so. Yeah, boredom boredom boredom... But with even a modicum of organization, you'd be started and probably through the entire two hours.
10:10 PM ET: Number of people watching: Almost 1,000.
10:15 PM EDT: Logging hate appears to be the order of the day here. Blazedd announces that logging out at form #9 -- unless they truly are doing something administrative on it (doubt that seriously). Watching closely, guys... I want to know which GM is watching this... Watchers: Now over 1,000...
10:20 PM EDT: POP!! Game on!!!
First form appears to be a Chariot.
10:21 PM EDT: At least one player has already used their two-hour.
10:24 PM EDT: But PW is clobbering them!!
10:26 PM EDT: All lamps down for form #1.
10:28 PM EDT: I'm getting the Vince McMahon theme in my head, as PW is largely unclaimed and basically running roughshod everywhere.
10:29 PM EDT: Bickering all over the place. "You got... NO CHANCE... NO CHANCE IN HELL!!"
10:31 PM EDT: Still on form #1 -- "Zombie holding" it while the entire fight recovers from being reamed.
10:32 PM EDT: At least one player appears to be thisclose to getting thrown out of the fight by the leaders.
10:34 PM EDT: PW form #1 at about 50%. At this rate, they don't clear more than about 4 forms.
All my worst fears are being confirmed. Does anybody know how to play this damn game without Windower, exploits, hacks, cheating, etc.?
10:37 PM EDT: Reading BG: Someone appears to be actively attempting to sabotage the attempt (first death of the DD party may have been a deliberate MPK from someone outside the LS). And they're succeeding well.
10:40 PM EDT: Yep. It appears to be abject sabotage now. Someone from outside the LS has decided to go into business for themselves with the abject role of killing this run, and it sounds like they've won. PW is not going down here.
10:42 PM EDT: "Blizzit: Woot! We win..."
And the run has been destroyed. PW has DE-POPPED!!!
STREAM AND FIGHT OVER!
SABOTAGE!!!
Congratulations, you dick-fucking cock-sucking motherfuckers. You just destroyed how much work (whether or not the run was actually going to be legit - how long does it take one to get a Pandemonium Key?) - and four hours of set-up, so that you could cock-block their run and destroy their run, embarrass them on the Internet, and all that shit...
Unbelievable. You are an absolute embarrassment to all of Vana'diel, you freaking idiots!!! And you made them an absolute embarrassment to all of Vana'diel.
Something I once told my therapist applies here: "I hope you motherfuckers are satisfied."
(I was thrown out of the session.)
Edits:
10:58 PM EST: Within 15 minutes of this sorry episode, the person who was asked to leave the fight (and was probably, at least partially, responsible for the sabotage) was reported on BG to be thrown off his or her HNM LS. Fenrir players, avoid Katrinka.
11:04 PM EST: Sounds like someone is going to be having some explaining to do . This run has been GM'ed, according to a leader of this aborted fight. (Reported on BG) Let's see: MPK, Kill-stealing to cause the deliberate sabotage of a PW run... Yeah, I'd say that's bannable.
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Well lets see, you basically announce to the world that your popping PW, send out a general call for anyone who wants to "help out". And with all the pre-fight bickering and drama... this was comedy gold in the making. If their is one failure here, it's a failure of organizational control.
But here's the thing: Someone (at least one person, and probably more) went into this fight with the express purpose of destroying it.
Kimiko, I know you probably don't respect me anymore, but this is the kind of stuff which is why I declare that the game is dead, not dying or stale or stagnant...
I mean, I was abjectly clear that this run would either not be successful, or be a cheat on it's face. That's why I watched the stream, prepared to call any fouls.
But to clearly go in, because you just have to have the lolz, to destroy all the work which goes into a PW run... I mean, is this game even worth continuing come March 1st?
First off, in regards to your opinion, I simply believe in a little thing called free speech. As for the issue with tonight's PW attempt & if this proves that this game is dying? Well, this is why I don't deal with endgame in general. If I can least make my little corner of Vana'diel a fun place to be in, than that's what I'll do. Don't need the 99% of the crap out there bringing me down.
This, to me, is a matter of the chickens coming home to roost. This is the kind of stuff that will force long-time players to quit the game in droves (what few aren't just in it for themselves and to destroy it for everyone else...), without replacement.
And I see this only accelerating as the game continues to be de-emphasized in favor of Rapture. What you saw tonight will be replayed across Vana'diel in greater and greater numbers.
Funny that this bitch-ass peanut-gallery commentary puts you in the same category as all the dead-ender cheating gloaters you spend copious amounts of time castigating. So much class in kicking people while they are obviously going down. The "lulz" and the schadenfreude you bathe yourself in were brought to you by sharing of account info ("mojo" accessed an account on Fenrir so he could stream the video), so go report that next you vindictive ass.
FYI, by your "standards," the procurement of any Pandemonium Key is probably "illegimate" since the gimmicks of many ZNMs encourage exploitation of zone lines and poor "pathing" of mobs when kiting, especially when oblivious, unaccountable, self-absorbed, DD-only trash (like you?) don't listen to instructions or even familiarize themselves with the basics.
I thought you should know that, just like I thought you should know that some hypocrite like Maiev was a known FFXIAPP user who had his FOB-fancy tickled when hearing that some crappy LS spent $2500 for a bot (way to connect the dots, bright-eyes). But you're not so much about consistency at all but clinging to some warped misanthropic ideas of moral superiority (you think yourself "above it all" yet still play FFXI to spite all the undifferentiated idiots you hate... who's in control here, hm?).
FFXI may not require motor skill, but it does require honest attempts to be "knowledgeable." Maybe you should work on that sometime, given your obvious ignorance when opining about FFXI.
Robonsto: Apparently, from more of what I'm hearing (some of which is what you are talking about), FFXI doesn't require any damned skill whatsoever!!
All it requires is a proper investment and to trick out your computer with about six or seven illegal third-party operations.
The more I'm learning about any serious degree of end-game, the more I am becoming aware that the whole shit-fest is RMT and nothing more than RMT.
Why would someone (Robonosto is talking about the type of people who would buy this NASA, a "claim-bot vs. competition", which has been reported of being sold to the order of about $2000 or more. In real money.
But, back to his comment:
I'm not clear on exactly how one kills the Tiers of monsters to get the Pandemonium Key, but, after last night, I definitely have question as to how this person or LS was able to do it legitimately.
But understand one of my key points: If it is impossible to play this game under the stated Terms of Service - if it is impossible to function under the rules which Square-Enix has set, then they are running a fraud and a sham game, and they need to close it down. Now.
(No, you smartasses, not Feb. 28th either. Now.)
If any kill to get the Pandemonium Key requires breaking the rules of the geometry of the game to blatantly take advantage of it to avoid attack, then it most certainly is illegal and bannable.
I'm not a cheating gloater. I just took one look at this and facepalmed. How in the bloody Hell are you going to put together a run for the most difficult monster in the game, advertise that the stream is going all over the web, and then look so disorganized that I ought to be paying a cover charge to see the comedy act which PW is going to inflict??
And then for some jackass to basically sabotage it further, kicking their face even further into the dirt?
This is the kind of shit that's going to chase people to WoW even faster!!
You damned right I'm a vindictive ass, motherfucker! And if you've got a problem with that, haul yourself to California and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I'm a vindictive ass when I see people spit all over this game and think they can actually make money by raping the remaining legitimacy here, bitch!!
There is nothing knowledgeable about raping the ToS. Even App is illegal, idiot!
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