Wednesday, July 7, 2010

As of 11:11 PM PDT, this blog is no longer a member of the Tarutaru Times Online, per Eric Yeoh.

Nothing further need be said.

16 comments:

Volkai said...

An experiment to confirm if SE intentionally bans only accounts instead of players --

* Make an FFXI account.
* Link said account (we'll call it FFXI1) to a Square Enix ID (we'll call it SE1.)
* Make another FFXI account. (FFXI2)
* Link FFXI2 to SE1.
* Get FFXI1 banned.
* Test if you can log in on FFXI2.
* Record results.
* Make another FFXI account. (FFXI3)
* Test if you can log in on FFXI3.
* Commit a warning-worthy, but not immediately ban-worthy offense.
* Test if you can still log in on FFXI3.
* Make another FFXI account. (FFXI4)
* Get FFXI2 banned.
* Test if you can still log in on FFXI3.
* Get FFXI3 banned.
* Test if you can still log in on FFXI4.

This will test if an account ban is placed on an FFXI or on a Square-Enix account. It will also test if a flag is raised on the SE account for any type of violation that would either accelerate the banning process or limit adding new accounts.

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

You see, why should it have to get to that point?

I mean, do the Terms mean anything or don't they?

Volkai said...

Terms of Service means plenty, but just like with the law in real life, not all parts are enforced with equal fervor, and many parts of it are up to interpretation.

The easy way to read it is this: violate at your own peril. You might not get punished, but if you do it's your own damn fault.

Calintzpso said...

If you understand what a TOS really stood for you'd finally understand some things. It is for the duration of that TERM! Not ones lifetime.

If you Violate a TOS that Term of Service could be void and you could get banned if that is how it is listed in the TOS, or more accurately, Termination of Service in most TOS.

By creating another account and starting over, you begin a NEW term of service. You agree to it each time you make an account if talking about POL.

So you should shut the fuck up about people coming back to the game after being banned for one part of your blog. Its like getting punished, taking the punishment-penalty of access, be it temp or permanent, and then serving the term or starting a new contract/TOS. Each has a separate term, and a possible result.

All based on THE "TERM" of that time.

The reason a SE account might not be banned when linked to a bunch of accounts that were banned is because of a Difference of TOS. You agree to a TOS of the game and the Account Separately. If you do something bab on the SE account in the TOS it states linked accounts "could" be subject to further punishment.

Then there is the fact that in all TOS for POL and the SE accounts, The service provider which is SE. Has the end user rights to activate/remove anything and anyone "for any reason". It's in most if not all TOS for companies, its a self protection agreement that companies do that provide service.

Why do you think SE added to their TOS about Acts of God, it ain't their fault and they don't have to answer for it, reestablishing their power to terminate anytime.

Pull you head out of that black hole you call your ass for once. Cause as much as many people wish it in the US, this is not a fucking Meritocracy! We vote instead of doing smart things over popular vote.

You violent threats may not have violated an established TOS stating it by TTTO, but the funny fact about the Internet is that the software many use to chat, blog, etc. All has a form of rules through the GPL of software creation, use by and of its peers. Meaning as long as you didn't pay for a licensed agreed service like SE provides.

Your ass could have been canned for saying the word "The" in your blogs title. Its up to the Host providing FREE service to do what he wants with providing you service.

Enjoy your loss of traffic in the days cometh.

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

Fuck you, Calintzpo.

No, seriously, FUCK YOU.

I can't go any further than that, as I have been legally advised that I have no right to a public opinion any more with respect to Final Fantasy XI.

Volkai said...

"...as I have been legally advised that I have no right to a public opinion any more with respect to Final Fantasy XI."

No you haven't. First Amendment rights protect your right to have a public opinion with respect to FFXI.

That said, making threats is not protected by the First Amendmnet, and considering your penchant for using frankly threatening language towards players you feel violate ToS, that's probably what your legal advisor was referring to.

Volkai said...

Also, despite being a dick about it, Calintzpso does have a valid point about the limitations of a Terms of Service agreement.

Although, with that said, he seems to neglect that SE can still ban any account at any time for any reason -- or no reason at all -- and may, under that carte blanche portion of the ToS 1agreement, ban a new account for the reason of its being made by a player who had previously breached a SquareEnix Terms of Service agreement.




For a legal document to restrict FFXI access beyond a single PlayOnline account, you would need to check the ToS for a SquareEnix account, or the EULA for the FFXI/POL software.

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

And you just stated WHY I no longer have a legal right to a public opinion about FFXI, Volkai.

#1) My very presence on FFXI is threatening.

#2) There are only two real ways to deal with those types of people, and I would suggest reading up on some of their attitudes (or at least the attitudes of their ilk) in that New York Times Magazine article I linked here some time back.

Volkai said...

"And you just stated WHY I no longer have a legal right to a public opinion about FFXI, Volkai.

#1) My very presence on FFXI is threatening.
"
No.

"#2) There are only two real ways to deal with those types of people, and I would suggest reading up on some of their attitudes (or at least the attitudes of their ilk) in that New York Times Magazine article I linked here some time back."
There's more than two ways. You've just ruled out the rest as unacceptable to you. I have not.

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

You'll keep banging your head against the wall.

These fuckers think they own the Internet, and you as well.

Evilpaul said...

So you're not updating any more at all?

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

At this point, I cannot.

If people want me to continue to update, there will be threatening comments. Therefore, I cannot, at this point, have a public opinion about FFXI and it's playerbase.

That might change at another time.

adam westwood said...

haha we win faggot

fuck you mike!

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

You ain't won yet, pencil-fuck.

Call the police on me and have me locked up, and you might win.

odannyboy123 said...

HAHA HEHE!
WE ENJOY OUR FINAL FANTASY!

Also I banged your mum.

Starcade, back on Leviathan said...

Necrophilia is illegal in many jurisdictions. You do realize this, do you not?

Of course, I guess a woman only dead for over 30 years could tolerate you...