Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Someone actually, in semi-flaming me, has an intelligent take on how I do things...

So I shall respond to it here...

First, go read "lolPUP and Beyond", as Dantpup basically saw my blog, saw the flamage, and was motivated into writing a fairly decent discussion of his side of the issue...

http://dantpup.livejournal.com/15609.html

He takes it as a question and answer form, going into what blogging is all about and the like...

Blogging is a form of expression, yes. And I express myself in a very vitriolic and very angry way at the people I disagree with. I can say that I am probably banned from more Internet sites, ISP's, campuses, sporting stadiums, and other places of business than most of my readers put together -- and that's the way it pretty much has to be. If you don't want to deal with me, then ban me and be done with it.

The way I express myself is actually held back a bit. I've said, frankly, that if people ever found out all the stuff I've been accused of, they'd never let me in another anime convention, as I'd be a threat to everyone there. There was actually one anime convention in the Bay Area (two years ago in San Jose) that I was so angry by the last day that I would have made the evening news if I had gotten my hands on the good ol' Saturday Night Special by Monday morning.

Why? I'm not safe around other people -- especially people I can't stand. I am probably not welcome in any of my previous hometowns, with the possible exception of where I took graduate school (and that's iffy).

So I'm here, at least one place where I know I can't ban myself. That means, if I get some idiots who decide they are more important than the game we play (and there are tons and tons of them in FFXI), I will express myself, and if they want me to STFU, then they're going to have to SMTFU in real life. That's the way I go.

I'm passionate about that which I care about -- otherwise there's no point in wasting time.

But the crux of what I want to get to is the statement Dantpup makes about how I do things and how it makes us look bad as a community.

Here's a news flash: I want the general public to view the FFXI fan community in an extremely negative light.

Understand what has happened in the last three weeks... Chances are, if you're an elite FFXI player (or regarded as such), you've basically been exposed as a cheater, whether you were involved in this kind of an action or not. As I said when I started the Flamage series, the odds of any 75 being legit in getting there are slim. I'd like to think I am, but I know someone is going to eventually have me examined against the Terms of Service.

Bring it on.

But the fact is that I have seen the level of play and the attitude of "I don't give a damn about anyone but myself, so screw you, your progress, and everything else -- I'm the center of Vana'diel."

I see it in Besieged. I see it in Campaign. I see it with the claim-botters. I see it with just about everything in Vana'diel.

You've got a core of players who don't give two whits about anything but their own selves, gear, and all that other garbage. They're junk, as far as I am concerned, and they've destroyed the Vana'dielian experience so badly that I believe that to be the main reason that Square-Enix has basically gone and finally stated that they really only care about FFXI anymore to get to Rapture.

They've officially declared FFXI to be expendable, and that Rapture will replace it. That is why I said the game is officially dead, and I stand behind that statement.

I find the core of FFXI players to be people and characters I want no part of. They've severely compromised the game experience on every conceivable level, and, facts being facts, the only reason I haven't deleted my Content ID's is that I don't want them to be the only ones left with Vana'diel. I want to spite their asses and spit in their virtual faces.

One thing I do not want is a positive view of a community which I already told Aneiro is not unified (you've got so many damn cliques in this game - read some of the comments about not even being in a position to talk unless you are "leet" like "us"...). I believe we have gotten to the point where the game appears to require cheating to succeed (be it Windower, be it duping, be it RMT, be it claim-botting, use of game mechanics illegally, what have you...).

But if Dantpup wants to criticize me for putting the community into a negative light, then, frankly, he needs to understand something... That's my intent. We've got a bunch of punk kids who think they're the shit. That's it. And they've overrun Vana'diel to the point that Square-Enix cannot grow FFXI anymore, and, hence, the game has no long-term future.

The problem is that it's hard to feel positive about FFXI if:

1) Cheating has basically become so accepted that the game is no longer legitimate.
2) The game experience has severely degraded (both P<->P and P->E, and the hardware too) over the last 18 months.
3) Square-Enix has officially declared the game to be expendable, and I believe that to be the result of the player base.

If we had a player base who gave a damn, played with honor, and played by the rules, I don't think the game would've stagnated by now to the point that Square-Enix would say that the time has come to declare that, some point in the foreseeable future, Rapture replaces FFXI.

Hence, I do want the player community to be seen in a negative light. If you hate me for that, so be it.

I do want to clarify one thing: I don't feed BluGartr -- they don't feed me. I do what I do for my reasons alone.

I don't want to be part of your "community". I don't trust the player base, like the player base, nor respect the player base. Individual players might get different consideration. But it's been harder to log on to the game knowing that no one who tries to play by the rules will be treated with anything but disrespect, at the end of the day.

28 comments:

Vacious~Wacious said...

You know, not everyone is this "punk kid" you say. That would be why people are so standoffish when you post. You say no lv.75 is legit? I have four of them.. Working hard to destroy a community is... wow, some kind of counterproductive. But I think everyone's come to their conclusions about all of this, so let it be?

Lady Une said...

Hello, Starcade. I am a player from the Asura server, where apparently you once resided. I've been reading your posts for a while now, and amongst the flaming and the fighting, I am here to be a voice of reason. Yes, you're right. blogging is a place where you can freely express yourself. Your opinions are your own, and it's good to see that you aren't a mindless doll that agrees/disagrees with everything that is spoonfed to you, and that you have your own opinion. Weather I agree or disagree with your opinions on cheating and banning, I'm more interested in your lack of faith and your refusal to be a part of the FFXI community. I have many jobs at 75, and though you seem to feel that just about anyone that has a 75 cheats... it's just simply not true. I know a great handful of people who refuse to use things like windower just for the simple reason that they feel it is immoral and wrong in the Vana'diel world.

You see, I have great faith in the people who play this game. So many times, I have had people help me for no other reason than just to help people. On Asura, I've seen people stand in whitegate and jeuno, shouting "anyone need help for XX job? I'm bored" or in fact just waiting for someone to shout that they need help with a coffer key or a level cap, or anything like that. It's not fair to just lump the majority of us together.

It isn't until people come to the ultimate conclusion, that this is an online game with other people, that players truly understand how to act within this game. I've sent money to a fellow LS mate, whom I had never met before, because she was behind on her bills, and had no money to buy Christmas presents for her two children. She hesitantly accepted the gift, after much arguing. (It was a fight to see who was more stubborn. ;P) Now, she continues to pay me back. Every year in December, she sends me a batch of freshly baked X-Mas cookies, and a "care package" of things like a blanket, hot chocolate, etc, to help me through the cold winter months. That is a true friend.

I've also had the other end. I've had a friend that I met IRL who was a LS buddy and what I thought, was a good friend of mine. Several months after we had met, He flipped out on me for some minor dispute, and proceeded to shut me completely out, and became a complete jackass to myself and the general public of the game. I found it incomprehensible on how someone, who knowingly met another IRL and can personally verify with their own two eyes that this is indeed a living person on the other side of the screen, treat someone so harshly.

In the end, it's all about taking chances, and when FFXI does official die, however long that may take, In the end, I'll have memories of friendships and companions, and the real friends that I have made and developed relationships with both in and outside of the game.

Do you really want to leave this game, feeling like it was a waste of time, and taking nothing from it? I'm sure you have at least one or two good friends in the game that you don't know IRL yet, right?

I can only hope it's not too late. I would not see the 6+ years I have spent on this game as wasted time, if everything ended here and now.

Until next time, Starcade. Good luck in your adventures in Vana'diel.

Aph said...

"I don't play this game to make friends."

lol ok but seriously... what do you play for? Just to be a "thorn in our backside"? Suit yourself. Its your money. But I can assure you, you arent affecting anyone the slightest.

"Blogging is a form of expression, yes. And I express myself in a very vitriolic and very angry way at the people I disagree with. I can say that I am probably banned from more Internet sites, ISP's, campuses, sporting stadiums, and other places of business than most of my readers put together -- and that's the way it pretty much has to be. If you don't want to deal with me, then ban me and be done with it."

Do you even have just "one" real friend IRL? Do you know what the word "friendship" means?

"Why? I'm not safe around other people -- especially people I can't stand. I am probably not welcome in any of my previous hometowns, with the possible exception of where I took graduate school (and that's iffy)."

You admit that people in general always hate you when you're around. Don't you think the problem is you then? (not attacking you here, I seriously feel sorry for you) Wouldnt you like to go chill out with some buddies sometimes and just have a good time?

"So I'm here, at least one place where I know I can't ban myself. That means, if I get some idiots who decide they are more important than the game we play (and there are tons and tons of them in FFXI), I will express myself, and if they want me to STFU, then they're going to have to SMTFU in real life. That's the way I go."

Who is dumb enough to think a game is more important than their own life, really?

"Here's a news flash: I want the general public to view the FFXI fan community in an extremely negative light.


Understand what has happened in the last three weeks... Chances are, if you're an elite FFXI player (or regarded as such), you've basically been exposed as a cheater, whether you were involved in this kind of an action or not. As I said when I started the Flamage series, the odds of any 75 being legit in getting there are slim. I'd like to think I am, but I know someone is going to eventually have me examined against the Terms of Service."

so... the moment we hit level 75, we are cheaters? And you are the sole exception? Get real, you arent FFXI's Jesus Christ. Understand this. SE could not possibly have thought of every possible thing that could happen with their game when they wrote the ToS. That is why some things need to be tolerable. That is just like IRL. How many times have laws been changed throughout history? Hell, how many times have some people have, technically, broken the law to a small degree IRL, but havent been punished for it? I mean, they got caught in the act, but cops or w/e let them go. That is because they remained human beings, and they tolerated a mistake because it honestly was not a big deal. There's a reason for that. It's to better suit the community. If all laws were enforced to the full extent every time, well, planet earth would be an empty place indeed. But I suppose "that's the way it should be" right?

"They've officially declared FFXI to be expendable, and that Rapture will replace it. That is why I said the game is officially dead, and I stand behind that statement."

Its called evolution. What did you expect? That FFXI would live forever? Its still not dead and wont be for several years. SE has only declared that Rapture will take the place of FFXI as its Premiere!!! They've also stated, officially, that they will continue to work on FFXI for as long as there are players to support it. Its only natural that a company wants to move on to other different things at one point. FFXI has been going on for 7 years now. Thats quite a long time for a video game, especially with the ever growing technologies around, and its still very active. SE wants to do something new with more powerful engines. Thats only normal and has nothing to do with the playerbase. To give you a comparison: how many times will a song writter will rewrite his same song before he wants to hear something new?

"I find the core of FFXI players to be people and characters I want no part of. They've severely compromised the game experience on every conceivable level, and, facts being facts, the only reason I haven't deleted my Content ID's is that I don't want them to be the only ones left with Vana'diel. I want to spite their asses and spit in their virtual faces."

That is a pretty sad excuse to continue playing the game. I will tell you once more tho. Nobody cares what you do. All you're doing really is wasting your money, because, yea no one cares.

"If we had a player base who gave a damn, played with honor, and played by the rules, I don't think the game would've stagnated by now to the point that Square-Enix would say that the time has come to declare that, some point in the foreseeable future, Rapture replaces FFXI."

You have no right to talk about honor and respect. You basically demand both from everyone, but you give neither. A "Dictator" is in no way, honorable.

"I don't want to be part of your "community". I don't trust the player base, like the player base, nor respect the player base. Individual players might get different consideration. But it's been harder to log on to the game knowing that no one who tries to play by the rules will be treated with anything but disrespect, at the end of the day."

Here it is again. You admit to disrespect the whole community, then you cry out because no one respects you. I know, ironic isnt it?

But seriously, what exactly are you trying to accomplish here? "Save Vanad'iel"? Dont kid yourself. Your actions, if ever successful, which is quite impossible I assure you, would only harm FFXI, far from saving it.

After reading enough of your posts, I can pretty much see how your own life is. Its quite sad. Are you ever happy? Have you tried to be happy? Youve stated youve been banned from so many places, and that people in general dont like you. What, then, is the problem? Will you grow up and die alone and unhappy? That is no way to live, and you know it. The only reason you're keeping your content ID on FFXI is not to piss off other players; that is merely an excuse you give yourself. Its because FFXI is the only place you have. People on FFXI "have to" endure you, unlike IRL where you get banned from. Your ranting is to get attention, because you get none IRL. Without FFXI, you would be truly alone and even more unhappy.

I know you will reply to this and deny all of this. Ive come to understand you enough. But deep down, you know this is the truth.

I thought I'd want to laugh more when I came here today, but no, I guess not today. It's true I find your train of thought pathetic and laughable, but as I said, I have come to understand you. I'm sure you wont believe this, but I dont "hate" you. I have no reason to. I merely laughed at your way of thinking (quite amusing indeed). I do truly feel sorry for you. No one deserves loneliness. But you cannot impose yourself upon others either. You cant force them to accept you. You cant change other people to "fit you", as I'm sure you're not willing to change yourself to "fit in" with others. That is why you need tolerance, you need to make compromises, to a certain degree. Without it, everybody would be alone.

Good luck IRL.

Michael said...

Christ, go outside.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Michael: I do go outside. 4-6 hours a day, at least.

Vacious~Wacious: As I said, and as I've always said, the odds are against you in that regard. I cannot say that I believe you. Now, whether you are telling the truth or not, understand that part of the reason is that high-level play has become so damned corrupt that it isn't likely that many 75's are legit. Remember, when I said that, I openly understood that, being one myself, I would be open to question too. That's the point: No one is beyond suspicion, and, given the amount of rampant cheating going on, the game may get to an unenforceable point, where Square-Enix has appeared to begin the process of tossing up their hands and preparing the replacement once FFXI completely flames out.

As far as "working hard to destroy a community", that's already been done by the other players. There is no unity in this community, and the entire reputation and credibility of the player base has been summarily destroyed. So much so, in fact, that Square-Enix is preparing the replacement.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Lady Une: Yes, I was from Asura, and hated most of the last year I was there.

As I have said many times, I cannot say the odds are on your side regarding claiming that you play legitimately, especially if you are a North American player. As I said, when you tack on Windower, claim-botting, and all the little tricks which are illegal exploits under Square-Enix' rules, I'd say no more than maybe 3 out of 100 are legit, if that.

I'd like to think it worth something to try to be legitimate, but it's clear, given what I've been reading and hearing the last two weeks, that legitimacy does not matter at all to this community, and you can attest the lack of faith to that fairly cleanly.

From what I've read, which includes BG and a lot of other places, the level of legitimate play is so miniscule that it really is irrelevant (you can consider it, for all intent and purpose in the large scale to be essentially zero) -- and explains Square-Enix' desire to can FFXI as quickly as can realistically be done.

As I've said a number of times, I don't play this game to make friends. The thought of me doing as you've suggested for another FFXI player (or even asking the other FFXI players for real money) is so ludicrous to me that I just don't see how that's feasible at all. I guess after you've declared 75 e-mails a day to be spam...

I guess I've seen the evil in men too many times to continue to buy into the concept that a person could just do like this in-game and not have it be a reflection on his or her real character.

1 or 2 good friends from the game? No. Such was not my intent, and the more I look at the other players, the less I want to do with them.

Playing legitimately, in the scope of present Vana'diel, has been a massive waste of my time. Present Vana'diel does not suit legitimate gameplay anymore (again, what I see as the main reason that Rapture is getting ramped up)...

The only reason I do it is because I just don't feel it proper to spit all over Square-Enix like the utter vast majority of players do.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Aph again:

"I don't play this game to make friends."

lol ok but seriously... what do you play for? Just to be a "thorn in our backside"? Suit yourself. Its your money. But I can assure you, you arent affecting anyone the slightest.


Why is this one of the most read blogs on FFXI then?

And why do you take so much time, after you said you were leaving, to continue to spout your tripe?

Do you even have just "one" real friend IRL? Do you know what the word "friendship" means?

I've got two, and both are as about anti-social as I am. One is even more disgusted at the punk-asses than I am.

You admit that people in general always hate you when you're around. Don't you think the problem is you then? (not attacking you here, I seriously feel sorry for you) Wouldnt you like to go chill out with some buddies sometimes and just have a good time?

No. Because that's not possible. I can't have a "good time" with "buddies" because I can't stand what "buddies" usually do to have a "good time".

And if the problem is me, then they better lock me up and be good and quick about it.

Who is dumb enough to think a game is more important than their own life, really?

I think the game is a good representation of what it's players do in real life. Given that, I find most of the player-base of FFXI either not worth the time or outright revolting.

so... the moment we hit level 75, we are cheaters?

No. But most of you (the vast majority) cheated to get there and probably cheated even more to get that leet gear that makes you more important than anyone else on Vana'diel...

And you are the sole exception? Get real, you arent FFXI's Jesus Christ.

Take this answer the correct way: It damned well feels like I'm the sole exception as I read the blogs and BG and some of the other forums. Am I? No. But it damned well feels like it.

Understand this. SE could not possibly have thought of every possible thing that could happen with their game when they wrote the ToS. That is why some things need to be tolerable.

No. That's why you write the ToS in a way that, when new exploits are discovered, there's already a rule against them to begin with, and punishments enforced.

That is just like IRL. How many times have laws been changed throughout history? Hell, how many times have some people have, technically, broken the law to a small degree IRL, but havent been punished for it?

You should know, by now, that we live in a RL political justice system, where your status in society determines what laws you must obey.

I mean, they got caught in the act, but cops or w/e let them go. That is because they remained human beings, and they tolerated a mistake because it honestly was not a big deal. There's a reason for that. It's to better suit the community. If all laws were enforced to the full extent every time, well, planet earth would be an empty place indeed. But I suppose "that's the way it should be" right?

Actually, yes. Because what I'm reading here is a person basically saying that cheating your ass off and breaking the law is what makes us human. I went down that road years ago, bub...

Its called evolution. What did you expect? That FFXI would live forever? Its still not dead and wont be for several years. SE has only declared that Rapture will take the place of FFXI as its Premiere!!! They've also stated, officially, that they will continue to work on FFXI for as long as there are players to support it. Its only natural that a company wants to move on to other different things at one point. FFXI has been going on for 7 years now. Thats quite a long time for a video game, especially with the ever growing technologies around, and its still very active. SE wants to do something new with more powerful engines. Thats only normal and has nothing to do with the playerbase. To give you a comparison: how many times will a song writter will rewrite his same song before he wants to hear something new?

There won't be players for long if people like you continue to spit all over the game and its rules. Ever wish to consider why they can't get enough new players to keep the game growing??

So I don't see that statement that FFXI will remain in play as long as there are players to mean anything, because the conduct of the player base will run what few legitimate players are left out of the game.

Then, without any marks to target...

You have no right to talk about honor and respect. You basically demand both from everyone, but you give neither. A "Dictator" is in no way, honorable.

I don't demand them for myself. I demand them for the rules and the people of the game. You won't give that, so that's why I demand you do.

Don't confuse "Respect the rules, dammit!" with "Respect me, dammit!!" I know I will never get your respect -- I knew that before you even talked to me for the first comment.

"I don't want to be part of your "community". I don't trust the player base, like the player base, nor respect the player base. Individual players might get different consideration. But it's been harder to log on to the game knowing that no one who tries to play by the rules will be treated with anything but disrespect, at the end of the day."

Here it is again. You admit to disrespect the whole community, then you cry out because no one respects you. I know, ironic isnt it?


No one will respect me in the first place -- I conceded that years ago IRL. But, on top of it, I also know that no one in this game is going to respect someone with any degree of integrity and trying to follow the rules. This is what we've become, especially in American society. The ends justify all means to get there...

I would rather be banned by Square-Enix for making such an issue of things that the players feel me disruptive enough, than to play along with a bunch of what I view as little children who have no regard for anything but their own progress and their own lives on Vana'diel.

Hence, I can say with conviction to the following:

But seriously, what exactly are you trying to accomplish here? "Save Vanad'iel"? Dont kid yourself. Your actions, if ever successful, which is quite impossible I assure you, would only harm FFXI, far from saving it.

Vana'diel cannot be saved, and Square-Enix has now admitted as such.

Moreover, the more I read, the more it comes across to me that the players believe that the cheaters have to prosper, or, for them, there's no meaningful Vana'diel anymore.

As far as the rest of it, I'd rather be alone and be able to look myself in the mirror than "try to be happy" and end up in front of the police (which I can absolutely guarantee you is what would happen).

Aph said...

one last thing:

"You have no right to talk about honor and respect. You basically demand both from everyone, but you give neither. A "Dictator" is in no way, honorable.

I don't demand them for myself. I demand them for the rules and the people of the game. You won't give that, so that's why I demand you do.

Don't confuse "Respect the rules, dammit!" with "Respect me, dammit!!" I know I will never get your respect -- I knew that before you even talked to me for the first comment."

This is wrong. You cant divide honor. You are either an honorable person, or you are not. You cant say youll be respectful and honorable toward one thing and not for other things. If you do that, then the times you are "honorable" is one big lie.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

This is wrong. You cant divide honor. You are either an honorable person, or you are not. You cant say youll be respectful and honorable toward one thing and not for other things. If you do that, then the times you are "honorable" is one big lie.

One can absolutely divide honor -- in fact, when faced with such utter dishonor as occurs all over Vana'diel, to not do so denies one their own honor and makes one very susceptible to becoming dishonored.

tarothin said...

More random thought blurbs, just too many things to comment on.

I think the game is a good representation of what it's players do in real life. Given that, I find most of the player-base of FFXI either not worth the time or outright revolting.

As far as the rest of it, I'd rather be alone and be able to look myself in the mirror than "try to be happy" and end up in front of the police (which I can absolutely guarantee you is what would happen).


I must say I disagree with these two comments. While people are willing to do stuff like this in game, in real life there are generally far too many repercussions for people to even think of doing equivalent things. There's also the people who say, but it's just a game!, but that's a whole 'nother story. You on the other hand seem perfectly willing to act the same way you do in RL as you do online (as you mention being banned/kicked out of RL places as well) which seems far more likely to cause you to end up in front of police.

No one will respect me in the first place -- I conceded that years ago IRL.

I have to wonder why this is the case. Any particular reason for this? Just don't care, low self respect? (Doesn't seem to be the 2nd case but who knows)

If we had a player base who gave a damn, played with honor, and played by the rules, I don't think the game would've stagnated by now to the point that Square-Enix would say that the time has come to declare that, some point in the foreseeable future, Rapture replaces FFXI.

I just can't see how playing the game with honor, etc... would have made any difference at all with the population of the game. 95% of the people playing will never see the worst this game has to offer (botting, duping, etc...) so I can't really see that being the aspect that turns off new players. If anything I'd just say the game is just too involved for the casual gamer, it's really hard to play unless you put your life into it and most people just can't or don't want to do that. On the other hand, the ones that do stick have managed to keep a pretty steady membership despite everything that has happened. While there's essentially no growth, there's not really appreciable shrinkage either.

And despite your declaration of FFXI's death, without any more insight into SE's inner workings, it just seems to early to really say anything. FFXI still has more mini expansions on the way so development on it is still ongoing. Rapture has no info, nothing, not even a site yet, and FFXIII which has all this hype about it is still a year+ away, I can't imagine Rapture any sooner than 3 years at the very least. And that blurb on the report is really just too brief, it just seems highly unlikely they're going to go and just suddenly one day turn off FFXI and start Rapture. It's far more likely that when it comes out, all it's advertising and most development will shift there, but FFXI will probably be here for years and years to come. I guess it really depends what you consider dead, lol.

Aph said...

so what you are saying is, that at times you choose to be honorable and other times you choose not to be. As I said, you cant do that and then claim you are honorable. It is one huge lie. IT is a lie because you are only "honorable" when it suits your purposes. That, in itself, goes all against honor.

tacrozar said...

Jesus Christ
Just FUCKING quit the game if you have all these issues with the game. All your problem will then be solved.


I doubt you've never been the beneficiary of the knowledge windower and its associated plugins can give you.

I doubt you've never had someone in a party or alliance knowingly said 22% on a mobs health... because no one can accurately gauge a mobs health without plugins.

Oh ya, you "could" say you can judge the health bar... but can you be sure its 22%? and not 21% or not 20% or 25% or 23% or 24%? without the windower plugin? You can't without some outside help.

And I doubt you've called the GM on these people who use windower and its plugins even after you've known about it.

Averien said...

Why are you so read?

You are the bearded lady. It's a side-show to come here. Misanthropes sitting in the dark, whining about how no one has honor... I can imagine few things less honorable.

You haven't threatened my play; you haven't threatened anyone's enjoyment. You enhance it-- schadenfreude, or what have you, but your expressed misery and outrage are simply delicious.

Understand: no rules are absolute. None. Even in the most fundamentalist religions, there is room for exception, there is room for tolerance and grace. Hell, even in the Spanish Inquisition that was the case; Talibanian Afghanistan? Yeah, there too.

Rules don't exist for their own sake; they exist for the sake of bettering the community they protect. Their enforcement is not, not was ever intended to be, about the sanctity of Law for its own sake; the sanctity of Law is about the betterment of the community. Enforcing every law, every time, without exception, to its utmost punishment, is actively dishonorable-- honor demands leniency.

And that is why you aren't a thorn in anyone's side. That is why you don't matter as anything except a circus-freak we can come at and throw peanuts at and secretly (or perhaps not-so-secretly), thank our Maker that we are not you. You don't understand honor; you don't understand cheating; you don't understand the basic things you say you are standing up for.

You aren't a violent person, you are an angry one. But you have the smackings of a coward. I doubt beyond all measure that you are "unwelcome" in your hometowns; you are unknown in your hometowns, and if you aren't welcomed back with open arms, it's because you weren't missed in the first place... not hated; it's just that no one ever knew you existed to leave in the first place.

You are small; you are sad, and I grant that it doesn't speak well of me-- or anyone-- that comes here to laugh at you. But there really is some part of me that hopes that you will *get* it... no one is against you; you have so much to fundamentally change about yourself before anyone can *care* about you enough to give a damn one way or another.


Keep typing; you are mistaking the freak-show for relevance. You have my pity, and to my detriment, my undivided attention.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Aph: If you can't divide honor, you can't divide dishonor either. The only option is to depart.

tacrozar: ... which is why I don't, bitch.

I've said it before, and I will say it again. The only reason I still play is to spit on the player base which has completely corrupted Vana'diel. It almost is as if the players would openly side with the Beastmen if bribed with enough leet gear.

But the pure reason I don't quit the game is because I find you guys so despicable that I don't want the game left to dogs like you.

I doubt you've never had someone in a party or alliance knowingly said 22% on a mobs health... because no one can accurately gauge a mobs health without plugins.

I can read a bar chart, sir -- and most of the numbers I get are basically WRONG -- and, at best, estimates of 5's. If anyone could say, with conviction, that a mob had 22% health left, I'd want answers, because that is an exploit, and places everyone in the party in danger.

(You, of course, overestimate the amount of time I spend in parties, as well... I don't think there'd be a player in the game who wouldn't.)

Actually, I haven't known it, because the only times I don't hear multiples of 5 or 10 is when it's down to a sliver and even _I_ can figure out it's about 1-3%...

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Averein: And why am I considered the freak show, bearded lady, etc.?

Because most of you cheat like the little bitches you are.

If I were to attend the next FanFest, should the game get that far, I have been considering making and wearing a T-shirt which says: "Welcome to CheaterFest 2009".

This is exactly what FFXI has become -- a race to see who can cheat the most without getting caught so that they can parade their gear and their leet-ness haxorz whatever that foreign language of punk hackers is...

You haven't threatened my play; you haven't threatened anyone's enjoyment. You enhance it-- schadenfreude, or what have you, but your expressed misery and outrage are simply delicious.

The only way that can be true is if Square-Enix has totally discarded all credibility remaining of FFXI. I expect that the January 22 bannings are a _start_ -- said as much on this blog.

By the way, I'd be careful about that emotion unless you're certain that you are right. That's the kind of schaudenfreude that can come to bite you in the ass if you're wrong -- in so many ways.

You aren't a violent person, you are an angry one. But you have the smackings of a coward. I doubt beyond all measure that you are "unwelcome" in your hometowns; you are unknown in your hometowns, and if you aren't welcomed back with open arms, it's because you weren't missed in the first place... not hated; it's just that no one ever knew you existed to leave in the first place.

Oh, I would say not. In fact, I would definitely say not. I would only be unknown because I was ran out so many years ago.

Trust me. If I ever came back to my high school hometown or my first two college hometowns, for three examples, there'd be immediate calls for my locking up before I _would_ get violent.

If I even told you half the shit I've been accused of (and even some I've committed), you'd have me committed. The only reason I haven't killed somebody is not me -- "There but for the grace of God go I..."

No, everyone is against me, because everyone wants what I don't want to happen: A no-rules, no-laws anarchy where Square-Enix only collects the money and then doesn't care to do any more than get out of the way.

Mitchell Henderson said...

You can't really expect anyone to take you seriously, especially with your over-opinionated maneurisms.

Thanks for the laughs,


Mitchell


PS. Branding people who don't agree with you as cheaters = LOL, keep up the blog Starcade, you will now be my weekly dose of laughter.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

The odds are now against any player not being a cheater. I can only speak for myself with conviction because of how I play, but the odds of even that, given the corruption in FFXI, are getting lower by the day.

You want to laugh at that? Laugh while Vana'diel burns, then.

Averien said...

You are the freak show because of your mentality, not because of your actions. Because you insist that you understand what is cheating and what isn't; because of your insistence as "fact" what is, at best, ill-thought opinion. We come here and read you, and laugh at you, because you are so far out in left field.

I don't cheat; I don't exploit. And yet, you declare that I have because I have logged my Blm out to avoid death. I have never duped; I don't use windower. My point isn't that cheating isn't bad-- it's that your hyper-fundamentalist interpretations of "THIS IS CHEATING!" are inane. My point is that Vana'diel isn't real; I don't expect-- and no one should expect-- people to absolutely ignore the self for the sake of other people's pixels. It is a game; it is about fun, not about rules. The rules exist to enhance fun; the game does not exist to support rules and regulations.

And that's the point. No game, ever, EVER, has been played identically across all people who play it. Not because there aren't codefied rules, but because interpretation of-- and enforcement of-- all rules cannot, and should not, be universally and unquestioningly enforced to the most strict, literal interpretation.

Again, I don't use windower, but I will acknowledge that people who do have enhanced the game. Parsing has greatly enhanced the knowledge of the player-base to access knowledge that SE has not flat-out released. All of that knoweldge is available through examination, all of the windower benefits are functionally available through use of tools already in game... parsers and windowers simply make it more reliable and faster.

And that is what you seem to miss: this is a game. It is not life. It is not an analogy of reality. I firmly believe that if you cannot be trusted with the small you cannot be trusted with the great, and that you are most truly who you are when no one is looking... and even I say you are a crack pot.

You are not, though, a threat. You are not a clever, insightful person with buckets of angst and aggression, simply waiting for the circumstance to cap some foo' yo. Please-- regale us with your tales of violence and daring-do. For someone so obsessed with law and order, someone so eager to condemn others for game violations, you seem keen on putting your epeen on your own real life disregard for those same-- and more meaningful-- rules.

And that's why I say you are a liar, and the freakshow. Not because you are some saint that us monkeys are trying to throw poo on to drag you to our level, but because you are trying to fling your poo on us to bring us down to yours.

Because you are openly declaring that you are miserable, and you are trying to spread it.

Because you think that your poo-smears on your cage window-- the poo smears that obscure your view of us-- are actually ON us.

Because you think that sitting in your mom's basement, making D&D villains based on high-school bullies, and then victoriously slaughtering those villains-- or whatever misdeeds you think you did that make you so unwelcome-- is on the same plain as actually doing something malicious and malevolent.

You are no one. If you were as despicable as you claim, if your misdeeds were so vile, you would be in prison, or institutionalized. But your fantasies are not reality. And your display of lack of separation of the two is why I say you are no danger. Your unrealistic self agrandisement is why I say that you are the bearded lady: you wear your psychological disfigurement as a brand of courage.

And yet...

And yet you display the ultimate cowardice. You do not seek to improve yourself-- and by your own admission, you have much in yourself to improve. You seek not even to improve others; your goal as stated is not to bring awareness of cheating to people, nor a discourse by which you convince others of their misdeeds. Your delight is in the potential suffering of others. Your delight is in the belief that your presence hinders the enjoyment of others.

And you have the temerity and gall to ask why you are the freak show?

It has nothing to do with cheating or not cheating... it has everything to do with the pedestal you have placed yourself on, and our outsider vantage, knowing that it is based on premises flimsier than saran wrap.

Evil Panda said...

Bipolar disorder:

Bipolar disorder is a condition in which people experience abnormally elevated (manic or hypomanic) and abnormally depressed states for a period of time in a way that interferes with functioning. Bipolar disorder has been estimated to affect more than 5 million Americans—about 3 out of every 100 adults.[3] It affects people without regard to age, race, ethnicity, gender, education or occupation. Not everyone's symptoms are the same, and there is no blood test to confirm the disorder. Scientists believe that bipolar disorder may be caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. Bipolar disorder can appear to be unipolar depression. Diagnosing bipolar disorder is difficult, even for mental health professionals. What distinguishes bipolar disorder from unipolar depression is that the affected person also experiences the "highs" of a manic phase.

Major depressive episode:
Signs and symptoms of the depressive phase of bipolar disorder include persistent feelings of sadness, anxiety, guilt, anger, isolation, or hopelessness; disturbances in sleep and appetite; fatigue and loss of interest in usually enjoyable activities; problems concentrating; loneliness, self-loathing, apathy or indifference; depersonalization; loss of interest in sexual activity; shyness or social anxiety; irritability, chronic pain (with or without a known cause); lack of motivation; and morbid suicidal ideation.[4] In severe cases, the individual may become psychotic, a condition also known as severe bipolar depression with psychotic features.


Manic episode:
Mania is generally characterized by a distinct period of an elevated, expansive, or irritable mood state. People commonly experience an increase in energy and a decreased need for sleep. A person's speech may be pressured, with thoughts experienced as racing. Attention span is low and a person in a manic state may be easily distracted. Judgment may become impaired; sufferers may go on spending sprees or engage in behavior that is quite abnormal for them. They may indulge in substance abuse, particularly alcohol or other depressants, cocaine or other stimulants, or sleeping pills. Their behavior may become aggressive, intolerant or intrusive. People may feel out of control or unstoppable. People may feel they have been "chosen", are "on a special mission", or other grandiose or delusional ideas. Sexual drive may increase. At more extreme phases of bipolar I, a person in a manic state can begin to experience psychosis, or a break with reality, where thinking is affected along with mood.[5] Many people in a manic state experience severe anxiety and are very irritable (to the point of rage), while others are euphoric and grandiose.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Averein: Are you trying to draw me into a violent episode? Because that's what it appears like.

Trust me, there are several law enforcement agencies which almost certainly monitor my Internet content.

I can rest assure you that the only reason I have not committed such violence is not mine, but Thine. "There but for the grace of God go I."

There are few things which would give me satisfaction in this world -- crippling some of these punks is one of them.

---

Now, that said:

The game is full of shit right now, by Square-Enix' own (tacit) admission. If they aren't willing to continue forward, it ain't my problem.

If you believe half the shit you post, you had best get Square-Enix to ban me from the game for any of a number of sundry reasons (none of which have to do with actual gameplay).

Demoric said...

"Trust me, there are several law enforcement agencies which almost certainly monitor my Internet content.

I can rest assure you that the only reason I have not committed such violence is not mine, but Thine. "There but for the grace of God go I.""

That can be taken as a threat then. But no one is afraid of you Michael the 40yr old virgin discontent and over-opinionated over a lolvideogame. You huff and puff and can't do shit.

Come down to reality and seek help please.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Demoric: No. Sorry. I have evidence otherwise.

Aph said...

I want Averien on my friendlist. Whoever that person is, he/she is awesome and has won this blogfight.

I approve of the "no threat" comment he/she made.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

And you're obviously trying to provoke something...

Keep laughing while Vana'diel burns. And understand that stirring up a hornets' nest gets you stung.

If you want to come to California and face me, we can certainly find out how little of a threat I am...

Otherwise, flap your gums uselessly, like you have for the last two weeks, you cheating-ass punk.

Aph said...

oooooooo an e-thug. I am scared. Please dont hurt poor little me.

(oh just in case (probably the case) you havent figured it out, there was a large amount of sarcasm there. I truly am not scared of you in any way.)

I really dont understand how you even dare to speak of honor with an attitude like that. All your speeches and actions directly goes against everything a true code of honor would teach.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

I'm sorry, Aph, if you want to be an idiot. You're going to try to provoke something you don't want to provoke.

Aph said...

/laugh

still cant believe you're 40.

Do you happen to need special medecines that you need to take daily? If yes, that would explain a lot.

Still, I do find your whole attitude quite amusing.

Starcade, now from Leviathan said...

Enough that I've been hospitalized if I take the amount I need to in public -- or at least that's happened to me in the past.